I am not a particular big fan of brandon nor braille - but im a bit surprised of all the hate he gets in the gaydebunch tag. Because - he is just a boy of 16 that forms a connection and falls in love with a girl, and then the world tells him their love can not exist. So he reacts with defiance, but in the end he realize there is a better path for them. I think a lot of people can think back to their youth and identify with the tunnel vision teenagers often get stuck in, especially when in love.
I think the problem with Brandon — or, well, the reason there is so much frustration about him re: #GaydyBunch — is that his story is juxtaposed to: a) An interracial lesbian couple who has fought against Prop. 8 to be legally married; b) a transgender teenager whose family has ostracized him and so he chooses to risk his life rather than be confined to a body that doesn’t match his gender identity; and c) a gender atypical tween who just wants a safe place to call home. He also seems completely unable to understand that no means no, which of course taps into that cultural discussion we’re having right now about rape culture. Brandon seems like a pretty good dude, but his brand of straight white male entitlement/myopia always has the potential to be off-putting, and to a group of queer women who have fought so hard and so long for just basic civil rights, it is bamboozling and infuriating in the extreme.
Or, as my favorite Fosters recapper, Lucy Hallowell, said to me in an email a few minutes ago:
Previously on The Fosters:
Callie told Brandon she would be homeless if they got together and he tried to get in her pants.
Callie told Brandon to back off and he tried to get in her pants.
Jude told Brandon to back off and he tried to get in Callie’s pants.
Brandon’s moms got married and Brandon tried to get in Callie’s pants
Brandon’s grandfather died and he tried to get in Callie’s pants.
Callie told Brandon they were done and he was like “oh I get it now that you’ll be homeless and family-less if I don’t back off, aren’t I super sensitive?”
Sure, he’s 16, but his brain isn’t literally his penis.
You know what - fuck you. I just read your latest ppl recap and fuck you. You know the writers read everything fucking thing you write. Fuck you for everything fucking thing you've written about paige 'pigskin' fucking mccullers.
I think in your first interview with Lindsey Shaw you mentioned you were a big moze/ned shipper? Maybe it's cause I discovered her as Paige McCullers first, but in the few episodes of Ned's Declassified that have come my way I can't help but think that Moze is a baby gay. What with the woodshop and crushing on the safe best guy friend. Am I just crazy? Did you ever think Moze was a baby gay? And what were your thoughts when Moze appeared on PLL as a closeted gay?
Yeah, in retrospect, I’m pretty sure both Moze and Ned were gay. But that’s not what’s crazy about Ned’s. What’s crazy about Ned’s is that this is who Cookie grew up to be:
Evil ezrA is the best and it completely blind sided me! Did you have any idea? The only clue that really stands out to me is the Halloween murder train. Thanks for the effort in the recaps - I love them :)
Yeah, the Halloween episode is really the first time I was like, “You drove along beside the tracks based on a hunch you had about Aria’s well-being? OK, Mr. Shady.” Now I think he was trying to get a look at that body inside that body bag inside the drinks cooler.
But I agree: Evil EzrA is a glorious sight to behold!
As someone who seems to have a good pulse on all things ABCF and PLL, why do you think the network has been pushing Emison so hard considering as of 419 Paily is still canon and very much in love and having sexy times. I mean its like they are kicking Paige/Lindsey to the curb along with a sizable fan base.
Oh, networks just love that kind of stuff. It’s good for their stats. It’s good for creating conversations … that improve their stats. When people are talking about a show, even if they’re hollering at each other about it, it’s good for the show. Publicity is king. Networks used to only be able to troll in the little “Next week on whatever show…” clips that aired right after the credits, but with social media taking over the world, they can do a whole new kind of aggravation baiting these days. There’s no shame in it. I’m not slamming them. It’s just how the world works. I remember people in Days of Our Lives forums losing their minds over NBC trolling their ships and that was before shipping was even a thing. Like in 1997, I remember that kind of thing happening. You know the truth of the story, yeah? You’ve watched it with your own eyeballs. Chin up, soldier on. :)
In a scale 1-10, how much do you think we gonna love the paily scene(4x19)?
It has been my experience that the more hyped something gets in fandom, the more likely people are to be disappointed in it. I’ve been in lots of different fandoms for lots and lots of years and I can count on one hand the number of times that something has lived up to our collective expectations (and three of those times were Harry Potter books).
In my personal experience, I’ve also found that my level of disappointment rises in direct correlation to the myopia of my viewing experience. Which is to say: If I’m watching a TV show or a movie for one single scene or one single pairing, I am exponentially more likely to be unhappy with it. Shipping is fun. I love shipping. But if I’m just watching TV to have my shipping desires met, I am always going to be disappointed. Because the absolute must of stories is constant conflict and shipping is the opposite of that. It’s why fan fiction is the super best number one top thing.
But it’s more complicated in queer fandoms, and I totally get that, because it’s not just about getting what you want, it’s about having a viewing experience that is on par with the straight shippers who watch the show. I got in big trouble one time with Glee fandom because I said in a recap that gay people are “kiss counters,” but I didn’t mean that in a derogatory way. What I meant is that we’re so used to being marginalized by media that any hint of being slighted taps into years and years and years of being treated like third-rate citizens and pop culture consumers.
What I am trying to say is: I understand why fandom is so hyper focused on this one scene. It makes perfect sense. I’ve been there a million times. But also, that kind of constricted vision is setting yourself up for getting crushed. Not just with this thing, but with all TV things. Television cannot compete with my imagination. I doubt it can compete with yours, either, right?
But! Having said all that, I loved the episode. I loved all of Paige and Emliy’s interactions. I think it’s a 42-minute masterpiece. I was very pleased with it.
After years of silence, JK Rowling finally speaks the truth about Ronbledore.
“I have said this before and I will say it again: I will never be intimidated into silence about Ronbledore. Wake up, sheeple. The evidence is already all there in the books. Did Cedric Diggory know too much about Ronbledore? Why is “Cho Chang” an anagram for “Weasley Time Prison”? Why does Parvati Patil keep referring to Ron as “Headmaster Time-Child” during the Yule Ball before she dissolves into a disembodied ball of gas? We’re through the looking glass, here.”
I’m taking a quick break from binging on Pretty Little Liars (Yes, Netflix, I know I’ve been watching five hours straight. No, I don’t want to take a break. No, I don’t need sunlight. Hush up now.) to put up chapter two of Marian!
If you enjoyed, or if you’d like to talk about Emily Field’s face, come and find me on twitter @EditorJenn.
Read it! Do it! You won’t be sorry! My favorite bit from this week:
She caught the enormous shadow of it first—half as tall as it was long, draped across the far side of the courtyard like a blanket. It might have been the middle of the night for how dark that side of the city was, cloaked as it was in shadow. Marian’s gaze traveled to place where the shadow of the castle became the thing itself.
Gylt Castle was bone-white and massive. If she were given all day, Marian didn’t imagine she could sit and count all of the windows in it winking down at her. They were stacked upon each other, stretching endlessly towards the sky, filled with panes of glass that were so colorful they might have been made of rainbows that had been shattered upon stone, then gathered up and welded together. Rich red banners draped the balconies and flew from the turrets, whipping in the wind.
Marian’s breath left her in a rush as she gaped up it, unable to grasp the magnitude of such a thing.
Hello:) I'm not even sure if you will response to this but I'm going to ask anyway. Since paily only exchanged those "ILY" in 4x01, is there a chance say in episode....4x19 that they will say it again?? I mean I know they will be fantastic and adorable as always but I just want to know. Will they say it before they get it on PG style?;)
We don't want porn. You keep acting like that's what we're asking for. What we want is it to be clear to even the biggest hater that Paily had sex. Not subtext, not implied. Spencer and Toby were on a bed naked in the throws of passion, same with Aria and Ezra. So, to be clear, is it a sex scene that we can tell they're having sex, or does the camera cut away again?
Hey now, hey now, dial back that aggression, my friend. You know there’s not a person on this wide internet who has successfully campaigned for more Paige McCullers than me, right? From like day three? You know the PLL writers are all super dialed into #BooRadleyVanCullen, right? That every episode is full of BRVC Easter eggs, including the return of Tippi the Bird? So let’s not start throwing pizza at my head like some kind of Ezbian Jr, OK? Don’t let the shipping wars make you forget who is your super number one top advocate! (It’s me.) Anyway, yes, it’s very obviously sex.
Hermione wasn't "the best" in HP. Ginny was definitely good enough for Harry and he got the best for him. Don't be one of those irrational Harry and Hermione shippers who doesn't understand the reasons why they were only friends and why Harry belonged with Ginny. Or why Hermione belonged with Ron. Jo did a in-depth job of showing the reasons why that was how it should be. I'm very disappointed you're one of those HP readers who doesn't appreciate how Jo wrote it all.
Who do you really thinks writes better PLL recaps-you or Jacob Clifton.
Jacob Clifton is the most talented person writing on the internet today, hands down. He’s a super genius, but with empathy. He’s a Hufflepuff, even though you absolutely have him pegged as a Ravenclaw. Read everything he’s ever written. Watch shows just so you can read what he’s written about them.
My all-time favorite TV couple is Helen and Nikki from the UK soap Bad Girls. It was a combination of crazy chemistry, the character of Helen Stewart, the actress who played Helen Stewart, Scribegrrrl’s incomparable recaps, and the 100,000 words of fanfic I wrote about them over the years. I would have said Naomi and Emily were tied for that spot, but I think I’ve made it pretty clear how badly Skins Fire TORCHED MY SOUL. :)
hope this is in the first five questions - how long is "the" paily scene in 419 compared to the small glace we saw in the behind the scenes video
The whole Paily scene is a couple of minutes long and it’s beautiful, but if you’re asking how long one of them on top of the other one, it’s very brief. But their whole deal in that episode is bone-achingly romantic, which I prefer a zillion times more than watching scissoring. (But! If that’s what you’re after, you gotta give Lost Girl a go, because sex is part of that show’s core narrative and they do it better than anyone.)
So I ship Spemily pretty hard. And I know you love Paily and I'm not saying I want them to break up but IF they did do you think Spemily could happen in the future? Do you think the writers would dare make another liar queer (I'm speaking on Spencer but that's also a general question about the other three)? Is this really a crack!ship or do you think it actually has potential?
Oh, anon. I understand your pain. It’s like during Harry Potter, you knew Harry wasn’t going to end up with Hermione, right, because they were only just the bestest of best friends, and even though you loved Ron very much, you wanted Harry to have the very best things and the best thing was Hermione. That’s what Spemily is like to me. Emily is the Harry and Spencer is the Hermione and their chemistry is so great — that hug! — but I think they are only ever destined to be dear friends. (Except in fanfic where they are unbearably hot together-together!)
I saw you answered questions about Paily and Emison, and I really hope you are correct that this Emison thing won't happen because this whole emison push by the Networks and completely ignoring the canon relationship that Emily is in, is ticking a lot of the fan base off. So, if you have an "in" with Marlene, please tell her we love and want Paige/Paily? BTW, the last recap and including Paige - Bless you for all eternity.
Weeeeelll, I don’t have an in with Marlene, but I’m pretty sure everyone in the PLL writers room knows exactly how I feel about Paige. (Love, marriage, trash can smashing for all eternity, etc.) The story is theirs and I trust them to tell it. (I’ll eat a live parrot if Alison and Emily end up together, though, is how convinced I am that’s not going to happen.)
“Fan fiction is a way of the culture repairing the damage done in a system where contemporary myths are owned by corporations instead of owned by the folk.”—Henry Jenkins, in Textual Poachers: Media Fans and Participatory Culture (via quotatiousquotations)